In chaper 90, Pi, a normally peace-loving vegetarian, has a hallucinatory conversation with a carnivorous sailor who tries to strangle him. What is the purpose of this chapter? Why do you come to this conclusion?
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I believe that the point of the conversation was to show that Pi still had a bit of his humanity left within him. The fact that even after all this tragedy, Pi still considerd himself to be a vegeatarian, proved that Pi had never truly lost himself. When the fellow castaway told Pi that he enjoyed eating meat from all animals, Pi became disgusted and nauseated. The person who had been surviving off of sealife for all these months was not the true pi, the true Pi showed himself in this hallucinagetic state.
I think the purpose of this chapter is that Pi is coming to terms with the fact that he hasn't ben eaten yet by Richard Parker. He is on deaths door and yet he still survives. At first he believes he is talking to Richard Parker but then realizes that is in fact a carnivorous person who was going to kill Pi, but he is then saved by Richard Parker. I think this chapter shows how important Richard Parker was to Pi's survival.
The purpose of Pi's conversation with a carnivorous sailor who tries to strangle him is to signal the possibility that Pi is losing his mind. Pi has a conversation with Richard Parker shortly before his conversation with the sailor, and his conversation with Richard Parker lets the readers know that Pi is not mentally sound. Pi does not question the conversation with Richard Parker at all, even if his conversation is with a tiger. Because of this conversation, it makes Pi's story less believable in the end.
I agree with perfectly flawed. Pi is trying to keep whatever parts of his normal life he used to have and apply them to his current situation. Having some sort of regularity during this experience helped keep him sane and forced him to not lose himself as one might have done in a similiar situation.
I believe that perfectly flawed is definitely one the right track with his opinion on this question. The whole hallucinatory event shows that Pi has no forgotten who he is. Even though he has been eating fish in order to survive, he still holds true to his beliefs and believes he is a vegetarian. This demonstrates how much of a strong willed individual Pi really is. -ZEUS
The purpose of this chapter was to show the relationship between Pi and Richard Parker. Before Pi had the conversation with the sailor, he has a conversation with Richard Parker. This conversation shows the connection between Pi and Richard Parker and how they are both very similar and have the same goal: to live. Then the sailor has a conversation with Pi and later Richard Parker eats the sailor. This again shows the great relationship between Pi and Richard Parker because Richard Parker could have easily eaten Pi a long time ago.
I beleive the point of this conversation with the carnivorous sailor is to prove to Pi his real self. Throughout the novel, Pi has been eating fish. During the conversation he is disgusted with the sailor eating meat. In this stage Pi shows his real self. The other purpose of this chapter is to show the difference between reality and illusion. I have come to this conclusion because Pi is shown the truth in the illusion stage when in reality it is tuly happening. -Leonardo
After all this time, Pi could possibly be losing his mind and the sailor represents his final strand of sanity. At first, Pi believes that Richard Parker is speaking to him, which made me believe that he has officially lost his mind. When the man tells Pi that he is also a stranded sailor, that is also unbelievable as well. There is a slim chance that another stranded person is out there with Pi. Another purpose of this chapter was to show that Richard Parker was very important to Pi surviving. If the tiger was not there, Pi would have been eaten by the crazed sailor. As his story continues, things become less believable.
I agree with space ranger for the most part. I think that the discussion definitely shows Pi's mental instability that came as a result of starvation, thirst, and perpetual suffering. The post was confusing and somewhat difficult to follow, but I think it may have been intentional because Pi was in a very strange state of mind during the event. I do however disagree with space ranger as far as the reality of the situation goes. I don't think that this particular entry makes his story any less believeable, because I'm sure many people would go mad in Pi's position.
I believe that this conversation with the Carniverous castaway reminded Pie of himself or perhaps what he would become if he stayed at sea forever. He had at this point already shown his ability to abandon his vegetarian lifetyle on numerous occasions. He had been surviving for the past months on almost solely turles and fish which he had caught so his vegetarian days had long ended.
The convesation with the eater salior adds the fantasy to the story that may make us belueve the storyis untrue. Making it possible to realize that the story is just that.. a mad eup story. yet, this part also makes you question that this part an be true. Because after a couple days and weeks without clean food , clean clothes, and a stable enviorment. A person psychie can be thrown off, and a person can stsrt to hallucinate after days at sea. Also at sea, you neve know who or what may linger out there.
The purpose of this chapter is to show some sort of human companionship. Although the sailor ended up trying to kill Pi, it showed him intereacting with another being and giving the reader a sense of hope that soon Pi's terminal fate would be relieved. After several months of Pi's only interaction being a Bengal tiger, it is amazing that a person in the same situation has pulled right aside of him.
I believe the purpose of the chapter was to show the connection between Pi and Richard Parker. Pi feared everyday that Richard Parker would eat him and just hasn't done it yet. However, Richard Parker got up and killed in Pi's defense. If Richard Parker truly wanted to harm Pi he would have done so already, or even would have eaten both the sailor and Pi together. He's had the ability and hunger to kill the entire time, just not Pi.
I think the purpose of this chapter is to show Pi that he is still the same person who he was before he was trapped out at sea. Pi is trying to tell himself not to go crazy, which most people would have done, and not loose his humanity. The sailor showed him that he needs to regain his conscience back and needs to focus on surviving. Which in some aspects he does becuase he still thinks of himself as a vegetarian even when he is eating fish. I came to this conclusion because at the end Pi is still alive and i think the sailor helped him in reaching his survival. -Athena
The point of chapter 90 was to keep Pi sane. He was "talking" to a carnivorous sailor who tries to strangle him because he was hallucinating and he needed to come back to the "real world." He was going against his old ways and this conversation was kind of like a wake up call. Pi went against his beliefs of being a vegetarian. When the sailor comes onto the boat and Pi and him embrace, Pi becomes aware that the sailor just wanted to eat him and not befriend him. This goes against Pi's vegetarian beliefs and shows Pi how he has been acting the past few months. Even though Pi has been eating the fish and turtle in order to survive, this shows that he will do whatever he needs in order to survive and shows his strong-willed personality.
Chapter 90 is about Pi's conversation with a sailor who Pi does not believe is real at first, but then believes he may be real. Right before Pi has this conversation with him, he is ready to die. He believes he has failed as a zookeeper and that his time has come for him and Richard to die, and leave this nightmare behind. "But this physical suffering was nothing compared to the moral torture I was about to endure" (Martel 241). This is when Pi becomes blind, and that is why he has this conversation with the man, because his hearing has improved because he has no sight. The purpose of this chapter is to show the moral torture he went through dealing with his blindness and it shows how it took him talking it through with himself to understand he is able to live through this. This false man gives him hope that there is someone out there like him and that he will be able to make it just a little longer and he will get out of the boat and find land.
Far into Pi's journey, he is waiting to die. He has gone blind and thinks there is no hope left. He starts hearing a voice and begins to talk to it. They begin talking about food and Pi lists all the different things he would like to eat. The sailor begins listing the things he can't wait to eat and all of them are meat. Pi is disgusted by what the sailor is saying. "You've eaten the poor animal's tongue and now you want to eat its stomach?" (Martel,244). The point of this conversation is to show that although Pi has become savage like to survive, he still has some of his early beliefs and morals. He only eats the meat to stay alive and if he had the choice, he would remain a vegetarian.
i think this chapter represents the battle Pi is having with in himself. He is hallucinating and his body is growing weaker. As a vegetarian he had to push his love for animals and other meat-heating beliefs aside to survive. The man he dreams up is the want within himself. He desires to tastes real food now more than ever while of\n the brink of death and wants an end to his suffering. Believing in God, he knows that taking his own life is morally wrong. This is why he claims the tiger saves him by attacking his brother. This overcomes his need to be rid of his misery.
This chapter was used to show just how desprate and crazy people will become in a situation like Pi's. Even though the man actually did have food he might not have been able to see it and believed he finished it all. It was kind of strange that Pi ignored the fact the man tried to kill him. Due to the circumstances im not surprised that one would try to eat another person if they have gone for days without food. This is something I could actually see happening if two people were lost and sea.-Squirtle
I think the true purpose of this chapter was to show that pi has stayed true to himself even after all that he has gone through. He eats seafood everyday including massive meaty fish called dorado but he still calls himself a vegitarian. I also think this part of the book was to show that Richard Parker and Pi had a true bond becaus Richard Parker saved his life and killed the man that was trying to strangle pi. Foxtrot
I believe that the purpose of this chapter was to show not only the humanity that Pi still had in him, but also the relationship between he and Richard Parker. When the sailor stepped onto the boat, Richard Parker devoured him and this just shows that it was possible for him to do the same to Pi all along and he simply didn't.
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I believe that the point of the conversation was to show that Pi still had a bit of his humanity left within him. The fact that even after all this tragedy, Pi still considerd himself to be a vegeatarian, proved that Pi had never truly lost himself. When the fellow castaway told Pi that he enjoyed eating meat from all animals, Pi became disgusted and nauseated. The person who had been surviving off of sealife for all these months was not the true pi, the true Pi showed himself in this hallucinagetic state.
I think the purpose of this chapter is that Pi is coming to terms with the fact that he hasn't ben eaten yet by Richard Parker. He is on deaths door and yet he still survives. At first he believes he is talking to Richard Parker but then realizes that is in fact a carnivorous person who was going to kill Pi, but he is then saved by Richard Parker. I think this chapter shows how important Richard Parker was to Pi's survival.
The purpose of Pi's conversation with a carnivorous sailor who tries to strangle him is to signal the possibility that Pi is losing his mind. Pi has a conversation with Richard Parker shortly before his conversation with the sailor, and his conversation with Richard Parker lets the readers know that Pi is not mentally sound. Pi does not question the conversation with Richard Parker at all, even if his conversation is with a tiger. Because of this conversation, it makes Pi's story less believable in the end.
I agree with perfectly flawed. Pi is trying to keep whatever parts of his normal life he used to have and apply them to his current situation. Having some sort of regularity during this experience helped keep him sane and forced him to not lose himself as one might have done in a similiar situation.
I believe that perfectly flawed is definitely one the right track with his opinion on this question. The whole hallucinatory event shows that Pi has no forgotten who he is. Even though he has been eating fish in order to survive, he still holds true to his beliefs and believes he is a vegetarian. This demonstrates how much of a strong willed individual Pi really is.
-ZEUS
The purpose of this chapter was to show the relationship between Pi and Richard Parker. Before Pi had the conversation with the sailor, he has a conversation with Richard Parker. This conversation shows the connection between Pi and Richard Parker and how they are both very similar and have the same goal: to live. Then the sailor has a conversation with Pi and later Richard Parker eats the sailor. This again shows the great relationship between Pi and Richard Parker because Richard Parker could have easily eaten Pi a long time ago.
I beleive the point of this conversation with the carnivorous sailor is to prove to Pi his real self. Throughout the novel, Pi has been eating fish. During the conversation he is disgusted with the sailor eating meat. In this stage Pi shows his real self. The other purpose of this chapter is to show the difference between reality and illusion. I have come to this conclusion because Pi is shown the truth in the illusion stage when in reality it is tuly happening.
-Leonardo
After all this time, Pi could possibly be losing his mind and the sailor represents his final strand of sanity. At first, Pi believes that Richard Parker is speaking to him, which made me believe that he has officially lost his mind. When the man tells Pi that he is also a stranded sailor, that is also unbelievable as well. There is a slim chance that another stranded person is out there with Pi. Another purpose of this chapter was to show that Richard Parker was very important to Pi surviving. If the tiger was not there, Pi would have been eaten by the crazed sailor. As his story continues, things become less believable.
I agree with space ranger for the most part. I think that the discussion definitely shows Pi's mental instability that came as a result of starvation, thirst, and perpetual suffering. The post was confusing and somewhat difficult to follow, but I think it may have been intentional because Pi was in a very strange state of mind during the event. I do however disagree with space ranger as far as the reality of the situation goes. I don't think that this particular entry makes his story any less believeable, because I'm sure many people would go mad in Pi's position.
I believe that this conversation with the Carniverous castaway reminded Pie of himself or perhaps what he would become if he stayed at sea forever. He had at this point already shown his ability to abandon his vegetarian lifetyle on numerous occasions. He had been surviving for the past months on almost solely turles and fish which he had caught so his vegetarian days had long ended.
The convesation with the eater salior adds the fantasy to the story that may make us belueve the storyis untrue. Making it possible to realize that the story is just that.. a mad eup story. yet, this part also makes you question that this part an be true. Because after a couple days and weeks without clean food , clean clothes, and a stable enviorment. A person psychie can be thrown off, and a person can stsrt to hallucinate after days at sea. Also at sea, you neve know who or what may linger out there.
The purpose of this chapter is to show some sort of human companionship. Although the sailor ended up trying to kill Pi, it showed him intereacting with another being and giving the reader a sense of hope that soon Pi's terminal fate would be relieved. After several months of Pi's only interaction being a Bengal tiger, it is amazing that a person in the same situation has pulled right aside of him.
-Calypso
I believe the purpose of the chapter was to show the connection between Pi and Richard Parker. Pi feared everyday that Richard Parker would eat him and just hasn't done it yet. However, Richard Parker got up and killed in Pi's defense. If Richard Parker truly wanted to harm Pi he would have done so already, or even would have eaten both the sailor and Pi together. He's had the ability and hunger to kill the entire time, just not Pi.
I think the purpose of this chapter is to show Pi that he is still the same person who he was before he was trapped out at sea. Pi is trying to tell himself not to go crazy, which most people would have done, and not loose his humanity. The sailor showed him that he needs to regain his conscience back and needs to focus on surviving. Which in some aspects he does becuase he still thinks of himself as a vegetarian even when he is eating fish. I came to this conclusion because at the end Pi is still alive and i think the sailor helped him in reaching his survival.
-Athena
The point of chapter 90 was to keep Pi sane. He was "talking" to a carnivorous sailor who tries to strangle him because he was hallucinating and he needed to come back to the "real world." He was going against his old ways and this conversation was kind of like a wake up call. Pi went against his beliefs of being a vegetarian. When the sailor comes onto the boat and Pi and him embrace, Pi becomes aware that the sailor just wanted to eat him and not befriend him. This goes against Pi's vegetarian beliefs and shows Pi how he has been acting the past few months. Even though Pi has been eating the fish and turtle in order to survive, this shows that he will do whatever he needs in order to survive and shows his strong-willed personality.
Chapter 90 is about Pi's conversation with a sailor who Pi does not believe is real at first, but then believes he may be real. Right before Pi has this conversation with him, he is ready to die. He believes he has failed as a zookeeper and that his time has come for him and Richard to die, and leave this nightmare behind. "But this physical suffering was nothing compared to the moral torture I was about to endure" (Martel 241). This is when Pi becomes blind, and that is why he has this conversation with the man, because his hearing has improved because he has no sight. The purpose of this chapter is to show the moral torture he went through dealing with his blindness and it shows how it took him talking it through with himself to understand he is able to live through this. This false man gives him hope that there is someone out there like him and that he will be able to make it just a little longer and he will get out of the boat and find land.
Far into Pi's journey, he is waiting to die. He has gone blind and thinks there is no hope left. He starts hearing a voice and begins to talk to it. They begin talking about food and Pi lists all the different things he would like to eat. The sailor begins listing the things he can't wait to eat and all of them are meat. Pi is disgusted by what the sailor is saying. "You've eaten the poor animal's tongue and now you want to eat its stomach?" (Martel,244). The point of this conversation is to show that although Pi has become savage like to survive, he still has some of his early beliefs and morals. He only eats the meat to stay alive and if he had the choice, he would remain a vegetarian.
i think this chapter represents the battle Pi is having with in himself. He is hallucinating and his body is growing weaker. As a vegetarian he had to push his love for animals and other meat-heating beliefs aside to survive. The man he dreams up is the want within himself. He desires to tastes real food now more than ever while of\n the brink of death and wants an end to his suffering. Believing in God, he knows that taking his own life is morally wrong. This is why he claims the tiger saves him by attacking his brother. This overcomes his need to be rid of his misery.
This chapter was used to show just how desprate and crazy people will become in a situation like Pi's. Even though the man actually did have food he might not have been able to see it and believed he finished it all. It was kind of strange that Pi ignored the fact the man tried to kill him. Due to the circumstances im not surprised that one would try to eat another person if they have gone for days without food. This is something I could actually see happening if two people were lost and sea.-Squirtle
I think the true purpose of this chapter was to show that pi has stayed true to himself even after all that he has gone through. He eats seafood everyday including massive meaty fish called dorado but he still calls himself a vegitarian. I also think this part of the book was to show that Richard Parker and Pi had a true bond becaus Richard Parker saved his life and killed the man that was trying to strangle pi.
Foxtrot
I believe that the purpose of this chapter was to show not only the humanity that Pi still had in him, but also the relationship between he and Richard Parker. When the sailor stepped onto the boat, Richard Parker devoured him and this just shows that it was possible for him to do the same to Pi all along and he simply didn't.
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